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Dec 24, 2019 at 3:36 comment added Ken West Thanks for responding Alan but I'm asking about sending emails via SMTP. I'm also intrigued when you say Google is a stop gap. We use Google's SMTP relay service and it scales easily to 10K emails outbound.
Dec 23, 2019 at 18:24 comment added Alan Dixon Yes, most of my clients also use gsuite for their domain mail, but not for the outbound civimail bounce domain. Using google for your outbound civimail bounce processing is not a great solution - it's a bit of a stop-gap-low-volume hack.
Dec 20, 2019 at 18:30 comment added Demerit My reading of the quote is that the target dates are for INBOUND reading of emails through POP/IMAP clients etc and they have not set a specific date for requiring anything new regarding OUTBOUND emails, just that they are hinting someday they might. While POP/IMAP might be used by the email processor, so it would affect that, OUTBOUND is the bigger concern for most civi users but that isn't set to change yet. Anyway I've made a ticket at lab.civicrm.org/dev/mail/issues/59. Thanks @ken-west for reporting. EDIT: Forgot about bounce processing. This could matter for inbound too then.
Dec 20, 2019 at 17:41 comment added Paul Williams Speaking on behalf of myself (we run a trade organization in the US) and a handful of others whom use CiviCRM and we talk back and forth, we all use Google Suite (former Google Business Apps). There are about 5M +/- paying businesses whom use it currently. Not sure how that breaks down to CiviCRM, but it certainly is not fly-by-night. To that point, the outgoing mail would become an issue for us and we wouldn't change email providers in order to keep CiviCRM. Not being negative, just we are not coders and retraining email ops to keep Civi wouldn't happen here.
Dec 20, 2019 at 17:30 comment added Demerit Fair enough. I think also the auth might be currently handled by the 3rd party EZC/zetacomponents package which might not support it anyway.
Dec 20, 2019 at 17:26 comment added Alan Dixon Yes, you're probably right. I'd still say that it would require an extension and including it in CiviCRM Core would not be smart (for reasons of security/maintenance).
Dec 20, 2019 at 16:32 comment added Demerit True, but I think that what the poster is asking about is for civi administer - system settings - outbound mail if you choose smtp and are using gmail servers as your outbound mail server. In that case civi does authenticate to google.
Dec 20, 2019 at 15:49 history answered Alan Dixon CC BY-SA 4.0